se your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planed medical or dental procedures. what's around the corner could be your moment. ask your doctor about eliquis. hey. ♪hey. you must be steven's phone. now you can take control of your home wifi and get a notification the instant someone new joins your network... only with xfinity xfi. download the xfi app today.

i gave kendis my highlighter as a peace offering for being late. >> i expect drink tickets any day now, alex. enjoy your weekend 37 hi, everybody. we're following several major developments today in the impeachment inquiry into president trump. the top democrat in charge of the investigation says that the whistleblower at the center of the probe is expected to testify very soon. meantime troubling new revelations about the back channel diplomacy with ukraine being conducted by president trump's personal attorney rudy giuliani. one columneist says the presidet is putting his interests above the national interests.

and the state department is ramping up its own investigation not into the whistleblower complaint but instead into the email records of dozens of current and former officials who sent messages to then secretary of state hillary clinton. just because, you know, 2016 is the longest decade ever. we are going to start this hour though with what could be the start of a tense few weeks for president trump. while the rest of congress is on recess, members of the house intelligence and other key committees are on capitol hill this week working overtime to try to escalate the investigation into trump e's interactions with ukraine he's president. and the big headline just a short time ago, adam schiff confirming that deal has been reached for testimony from the whistleblower. >> have you reached an agreement yet with the whistleblower and his or her attorneys about coming before the committee and providing the informatifo infor firsthand? >> yes, we have. >> if so when?

>> yes, and i hope very soon. all that needs to be done at this point is to make sure that the attorneys that represent the whistleblower get the clearances that they need to be able to accompany the whistleblower to testimony and that we figure out the logistics to make sure that we protect the identity of the whistleblower. >> in the meantime a brand new abc poll shows 64% of americans think that is this a serious problem, that trump encouraged the ukranian president to investigate his possible 2020 rival joe biden. and another new cbs poll finds a majority support the impeachment inquiry into trump. 55%. that by the way the highest that we've seen in any poll on this. let's bring in kelly he oo'donn who is at the white house for us. several defenders were out today. what sort of reaction were we getting from them? >> reporter: well, at this phase of the response, it appears that part of what loyalists to the

president and current staffers and allies on the outside like lindsey graham, senator from south carolina, are certainly raising questions about the whistleblower and the motivation saying that because this person whose identity is not known acknowledges that this was not firsthand information, not something where this individual heard the call or was directly related to the information, but learned from others in the white house according to the complaint about what had transpired on that call between president trump and the ukranian leader, they want to know who in the white house was providing that information. so sort of attacking the process and attacking what may have been the motivations that are unknown to us at this point about the whistleblower. that is part of it. we also heard from a former official who no longer serves the president, tom bossert, who had been the president's homeland security adviserer earlier in the administration, and he expressed frustration

about any allies of the president leaning so heavily on theories and conspiracy theories as he calls them about the bhe bidens in ukraine. here is tom bossert earlier today. >> i'm deeply frustrated with what he and the legal team is coming repeating that debunked theory to the president. it sticks in his mind and for clarity here, george, let me just again repeat that it has no validity. the united states government reached its conclusion on attributing to russia the dnc hack in 2016 before it even communicated to the fbi and long before the fbi ever knocked on the door at the dnc. >> reporter: so for clarity, he is not speaking of bidens, he is talking about the actual hack of dnc servers which was part of the infiltration of the american electorate, the system of our campaign in 2016.

and so russia not ukraine responsible for that. what we've seen from the white house is that the president and those around him have raised questions about whether ukraine had more of a role while the russia investigation had been so focused on so it gets complicated and bossert is among those saying not to add anymore speculation is important. this is swn who worked for the president saying it is not helpful to the president to have people in his environment telling him that ukraine played a role in 2016. certainly rudy giuliani is saying that that may have been part of what was going on in trying to work with democrats or the dnc in 2016. that is part of the story he is telling that led us to the bidens. so one thing that everyone has to understand, the more facts and names and circumstances get thrown into the public sphere, the more confusing it gets and that can work for either side's efforts to try to win the

argument. and that is what makes this so challenging because it is hard to constantly have to try to fact check each of these things. and that is why the president and his team keep bringing up issues that many people thought were resolved and put to bed. >> yeah, and it is why a lot of people are quietly at least in republican circles telling -- hoping that rudy giuliani will stop going on tv and talking, but he was out there yet again today. thanks to you. in the meantime back to that explosive article from the "washington post," the reporting that the state department is now ramping up its investigation into the email records of more than 100 current and former officials who september ment me then secretary of state hillary clinton. and joining me now with details of this is nbc's alex sykes wald. this was as a surprise and we're being told that this has ban going on for quite some time and ramped back up.

>> right. this is another potentially troubling example of the trump administration using their official powers for political goals. we have yet to confirm this and there is a lot more reporting that needs to be done here, but what happened is something around 130 former state department officials were contacted saying that they had forwarded emails or sent emails to hillary clinton's private email account that might have been retroactively classified. so they weren't classified at the time but the state department is now saying they are classified and this could be an issue for them going forward although it is unclear what it means. a lot of people who received the letters say it is a clear attempt to stonewall them, to scare them, to relitigate this hillary clinton email issue. which i think for a lot of people probably seems like ancient history, but there a political context that is really important here. if you watch fox news or read breitbart or subscribe to

judicial patch whi judicial watch, they talk about it all the time. media matters which is a liberal watchdog group, they pulled the numbers and on sean hannity, 505 out of the 585 shows since trump's inauguration mention hillary clinton's emails at some point. that is after the 2016 election. so for trump's base, they are primed to already see this as a live issue, an important political issue. so if he can add new fodder to that by getting the state department to turn up new evidence here, that could be a potentially political windfall for him. but it will expand it even broader and i'm sure now house democrats and in the senate will want secretary of state mike pompeo and others from the state department to have to answer questions about this. >> just amazing that we are still talking about 2016 and her emails here in september of 2019. thanks, alex. want to return to impeachment here for a moment.

specifically this new polling that i've been going through. we've seen quite a significant shift in a short amount of time. 5 55% of americans approve of the impeachment inquiry into the president. but is that how most americans really feel? vaughn hillyard is at a presidential forum in detroit. i know amy klobuchar and as well as elizabeth warren are expected to be there and speak. but i'm curious the people in that room and beyond, what are they saying about impeachment? >> reporter: as you have seen those poll numbers move across the country when folks are asked the question about whether they support impeachment proceedings to go forward, you've seen those numbers move drastically over the last week. and in conversations with folks not only here in michigan but we were in indiana the last two days and in iowa before that, folks are following this story

line. i want to play for you interviews with a couple of the workers we've talked to here. >> i'm supportive of the inquiry taking place and to find out what is going to happen. our elected officials will go down that path, but what is more important to me is the labor piece. >> i support nancy pelosi's decision to do that. i was also supportive of her when she was not doing that. i believe that this situation acting as a president, not as a candidate, makes it a different -- entirely different situation and so i support nancy pelosi's leadership and those who are moving for impeachment. >> reporter: what you heard from that voter right there mimics from what we heard from senator amy klobuchar. she is about to address this union crowd here. and she was asked the specific question about whether these impeachment proceedings, whether they would get in the way of the democratic candidate for

president, whether it would get in the way of their message to folks here in michigan where donald trump beat hillary clinton by just 11,000 votes back in 2016. and amy klobuchar said that it is imperative that these democratic candidates be able to chew gum and juggle at the same time. she said that this is a matter of what it means to uphold the democratic institutions, that is the united states government. and klobuchamy klobuchar said t these impeachment proceedings need to go forward because it is important that these democrats explain to the american people including these union workers here in this room why donald trump's conversations with ukranian officials including the president as well as others within this white house, why those conversations butt up right against what it means to run an election, run a campaign here that is fair and one of integrity. she said we are 15 months away from the general election. it was joe biden who is he had at a close door fundraiser here this weekend that essentially

donald trump is i trying to pick which candidate he runs against. and what you have heard from each of these candidates, in the words of kamala harris, leave joe biden alone. what you are hearing is unifying message against these democratic candidates saying that these impeachment proceedings need to go forward but also make the case on issues of labor, on issues of health care and education to these very crowds that both of those things have to happen at the exact same time ahead of this iowa caucus. >> the issue of labor right important in that room and beyond for many of the uaw workers who are striking thousand entering a third week with general motors. festivities getting under way there in the suburbs of detroit. we'll check back with you later. coming up, congressional democrats are in the throes of an impeachment inquiry, but we have a guest who says that there is plenty of other corruption that is hidden in plain sight. why president trump's dc hotel

is an issue ripe for attention. and turmoil at fox news as the biggest names spar over coverage of the whistleblower controversy. the whistleblower controversy. i have moderate to severe pnow, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer, yeah i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin ♪ yeah that's all me. ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin ♪ that's my new plan. ♪ nothing is everything. keep your skin clearer with skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. of those, nearly 9 out of 10 sustained it through 1 year. and skyrizi is 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. ♪ i see nothing in a different way ♪ ♪ and it's my moment so i just gotta say ♪ ♪ nothing is everything skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms such as fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches or coughs, or if you plan to or recently received a vaccine.

♪ nothing is everything ask your dermatologist about skyrizi. ♪ i am royalty of racing, i am the twisting thundercloud. raise your steins to the king of speed. why accept it frompt an incompyour allergy pills?e else. flonase sensimist. nothing stronger. nothing gentler. nothing lasts longer. flonase sensimist. 24 hour non-drowsy allergy relief johnsbut we're also a cancer fighting, hiv controlling, joint replacing, and depression relieving company. from the day you're born we never stop taking care of you.

want more proof that our climate is changing some take a look at what is happening in the atlantic. this is lorenzo. at one point was the strongest storm to make to the eastern

most and northernmost atlantic. it strengthened overnight briefly to a category 5 storm. and that was a record. no storm has ever been this strong in this part of the atlantic. back here at home, where there is smoke, there is bound to be fire. but as house democrats focus on interaction between president trump and ukraine's president, are they ignoring the flames in their own backyard? that is a question a lot of people are posing because according to the "washington post," this op-ed right here, the house doesn't need an impeachment inquiry to confirm trump's wrongdoing. just look at his hotel they are saying. his washington, d.c. hotel specifically. my next guest is the author of that op-ed, dana milbank. and you said that is out in plain sight. what is out there that we're missing? >> yeah, that was just one

example of this. and i think that the danger is that democrats may be overthinking this and figuring that they need to dig around and find some smoking gun here. there are smoking guns all over the place, so i took the example a hearing on the trump international, the d.c. hotel. all you need to do is read the plain language of the lease to know that the president violated the lease condition and very clearly is violating the emoluments clause of the constitution. what the gsa which leased that building to trump decided was they realized those were serious legal issues but their strategy was simply to ignore it and then when the inspector said hegener hey, you have to rethink this, their next solution was to rewrite leases for the future so that the president would be exempt from them. so that is just one example. but i think that we can see --

similar are to what has gone on with ukraine here, it is a clear cut violation of campaign finance law. you don't need to go looking around for which server they hid it on in the white house. the president broke the law in plain sight. >> and let's talk a little bit more about your story. you are reporting that lawmakers learned that the general service administration ignored the emoluments issues among a number of things that you laid out here. and related breach of lease issue. doesn't audit the property. instead taking the word of trump's accountants and doesn't keep track of payments by foreign governments. if this was any other administration, would this have gone off the way that it has? >> it is hard to say. i mean, the best defense of trump in this case would be to say when the original decision was made during the presidential transition, that legal decision was made by career people. but then it emerged that they didn't actually look into the

yeef mole uheme emoluments issue, they didn't check with a justice department, a retroactive excuse had made many. so essentially it was whatever the motivation, whether it was political, partisan or not, it was clearly the wrong decision and when called upon to address it, they essentially just punted the issue again. so here you have, you know, the president of the united states personally profiting. we have foreign governments, lobbyists, others spending millions of dollars at trump's properties throughout the world, he is encouraging the vice president, the air force and others to stay at these properties plainly benefiting from it. and clearly a conflict of interest way. >> and i do mention that early on in the conversation with president zelensky, he did mention that may, i stayed at your d.c. hotel and you noted

that at least 25 of 32 cabinet officials that have served in the trump administration have also visit that had property. and that is the only place that he got out of the limousine during his inauguration parade. is that coincidence? >> i don't necessarily think so. >> and then you i do want to get to the other topic that you were tackling in another op-ed, why there has been virtual radio silence from republicans, that we're not hearing republicans necessarily defend trump's illegal behavior in your words because apparently you're saying there is no defense. trump's partisans are free to choose their president over the law, but make no mistake, this is the choice that they face. could or should this be the breaking point for republicans, do you get a sense that they are walgt and s waiting and seeing? >> should and could are entirely different. it is not necessarily the

breaking point and they are defending trump. but they are not defending specifically what he did. and that is once again he broke the law in plain sight. read the campaign finance law, it said that you can't solicit a thing of value from a foreign state. that is exactly what the president did regardless of whatever else the whistleblower said. so that is clearly right there in plain sight. you will hear the republicans saying, well, makes it not true, maybe the whistleblower is biased, joe biden, joe biden x joe biden. but what i have not heard, they say maybe there is no quid pro quo, but what i have not heard is that the president did ask a foreign leader for help in his re-election and that is okay. you are not hearing him say that. that is a good thing i suppose. if they were saying that the president broke the law in broad

daylight and we're okay with that, that takes to a whole other level of depravity. >> and do you think mitch mcconnell has been strangely quiet on this? >> it is odd. ke67 kevin mccarthy has been out there doing a strong defense and even mistaking the case. but mcconnell has always stuck by the president. >> and earlier today adam schiff was doing the sunday show circuit and he appeared on "meet the press." and he talked with chuck todd about the skoecht investigation. i want you to listen and get your take. >> don't lose sight of that fundamental breach of the president's oath of office, duty to defend our country, our constitution and here the president is once again knot junot just inviting but coercing a foreign nation to get involved and help him in another presidential election. so to me that is the most serious set of offenses. >> so he specifically is talking

about the whole zelensky matter. and based on your reporting, you mention that there are many other issues including the emoluments clause. so is that approach a little too narrow? >> not necessarily. i think that it is very important to keep it simple. yes, of course you explore those and you may well cite those and the other 17 instances of be a b abuse of power that i cited. but in terms of showing the american public saying okay, the president against the law has now gone out twice and asked foreign powers, not necessarily friendly foreign power, to help him in his election and re-election, potentially compromising american national security. so putting his own interests above the national interests. and i think that is the core of any case that needs to be made. >> we'll see if that is the core of the investigation and the case that the democrats did make.

dana milbanks, our thanks to you. still to come, rudy giuliani slamming the whistleblower report. what does the investigation mean for giuliani who lies at the center of it? just ahead. but before we go to break, here is a look at the premiere of "saturday night live," the president with another sticky situation. >> thanks for getting back to me, i need some advice. how do you handle a whistleblower? >> oh, that is easy. you have a big ocean in your country? >> yes. >> okay. send whistleblower to the bottom of there. >> oh, wow. e bottom of there >> oh, wow about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. eosinophils are a key cause of severe asthma. fasenra is designed to target and remove these cells. fasenra is an add-on injection for people 12 and up

with asthma driven by eosinophils. fasenra is not a rescue medicine or for other eosinophilic conditions. fasenra is proven to help prevent severe asthma attacks, improve breathing, and can lower oral steroid use. fasenra may cause allergic reactions. get help right away if you have swelling of your face, mouth, and tongue, or trouble breathing. don't stop your asthma treatments unless your doctor tells you to. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection or your asthma worsens. headache and sore throat may occur. haven't you missed enough? ask an asthma specialist about fasenra. if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition... for strength and energy! whoo-hoo! great-tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein and twenty-seven vitamins and minerals. ensure, for strength and energy. my body is truly powerful. i have the power to lower my blood sugar and a1c. because i can still make my own insulin.

and trulicity activates my body to release it like it's supposed to. trulicity is for people with type 2 diabetes. it's not insulin. i take it once a week. it starts acting in my body from the first dose. trulicity isn't for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don't take trulicity if you're allergic to it, you or your family have medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2. stop trulicity and call your doctor right away if you have an allergic reaction, a lump or swelling in your neck, or severe stomach pain. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. taking trulicity with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases low blood sugar risk. side effects include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, belly pain and decreased appetite, which lead to dehydration and may worsen kidney problems. i have it within me to lower my a1c. ask your doctor about trulicity. i am royalty of racing, i am the twisting thundercloud.

raise your steins to the king of speed. hey. ♪hey. you must be steven's phone. now you can take control of your home wifi and get a notification the instant someone new joins your network... only with xfinity xfi. download the xfi app today.

looking over the noew york paper, the daily news with tricky trump. of course you've seen this from the new york magazine. but today's new york "post" impeachment pointing out that the president and his campaign has raised some $15 million since the democrats launched the impeachment. but that said, democrats are pursuing impeachment and they are asking to hear from a wide range of players including the president's former special envoy in ukraine, coming up, we'll break down who is being called to testify and why they are so critical to the probe. and in our next hour, top senate republican mitch mcconnell has been through impeachment proceedings before. but his tenor about the process is very different around this time at least.

a look at how mcconnell handled clinton's impeachment. ton's imp. but we're also a cancer fighting, hiv controlling, joint replacing, and depression relieving company. from the day you're born we never stop taking care of you. red lobster's endless shrimp is back for just $15.99. get all the shrimp you want, any way you want 'em. like new sriracha-honey shrimp, savory grilled teriyaki shrimp,

classic shrimp scampi and more! red lobster's endless shrimp is $15.99. hurry in. our because of smoking.ital. but we still had to have a cigarette. had to. but then, we were like. what are we doing? the nicodermcq patch helps prevent your urge to smoke all day. nicodermcq. you know why, we know how. with licensed agents availablep when 24-7,d it. it's not just easy. it's having-jerome-bettis- on-your-flag-football-team easy. go get 'em, bus! ohhhh! [laughing] c'mon bus, c'mon! hey, wait, wait, wait! hey man, i got your flag! i got your flag, man! i got your flag! it's geico easy. with licensed agents available 24/7. 49 - nothing! woo! when you have diabetes, ♪ dietary choices are crucial to help manage blood sugar, but it can be difficult to find a balanced solution. try great-tasting boost glucose control.

the patented blend of protein, fat, and carbs is part of a balanced formula that's clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels. in fact, it provides 60% more protein than the leading diabetes nutrition shake and contains only 1 carb choice. enjoy the balanced nutrition of boost glucose control as part of a healthy diet. why accept it frompt an incompyour allergy pills?e else. flonase sensimist. nothing stronger. nothing gentler. nothing lasts longer. flonase sensimist. 24 hour non-drowsy allergy relief big dreams start with small steps... ...but dedication can get you there. easily set, track and control your goals right from the chase mobile® app. chase. make more of what's yours®. johnsbut we're also a cancer fighting, hiv controlling, joint replacing, and depression relieving company.

from the day you're born we never stop taking care of you. wrap your head around 24, we are less than two weeks into the whistleblower firestorm, but these next two weeks will be huge. even with congress technically in recess, the house intelligence oversight, foreign affairs committees have depositions planned for five state department officials in the next 14 days. so let's get familiar with the names because they will be important. first up will be the former ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch. she was nominated to the post by barack obama. and she is expected to have testimony on october 2. and the liaison to ukraine kurt

volker suddenly's silsuddenly r told friends that he left his post to be free to talk. he was named five times in the whistleblower complaint. he is due there on thursday october 3. and george kent, kent oversees u.s. state policy toward ukraine, his deposition is set for october 7th. and then there is the counselor t. ulrich brechbul who listened to that critical july 25th call. he is one of the few people who was actually there listening into that phone call. of course the whistleblower got that information as we're told secondhand. and u.s. ambassador to the european union gordon sondland who provided advice to ukraine about how to navigate the demands of president trump made of president zelensky. october 10th is the day congress would like to hear from him.

mike pompeo is not scheduled to be deposed but has been subpoenaed for state department documents regarding ukraine. house committees are giving him until october 4th to produce those papers. we haven't heard much from mike pompeo quite get. wait to see what happens. > joining me now is president of the washington strategy group joel rubin. thank you so much for being here. >> thanks, great to be with you. >> so let's point out, you have been on calls similar to this at least with cabinet secretaries and their counterparts. did you ever hear anything like what is laid out in that whistleblower complaint? >> yeah, kendis, it is unprecedented. it has been said before by the dni as well this past week that it is an unprecedented moment. cabinet secretaries, presidents, do not trade american security for personal political favors. it is just not done. the concept that someone in the past would have done this is

just incomprehensible. the idea that the president was caught red handed, there is a smoking gun, is what that i cans this so heartwrenching for those who have served in national security to see essentially the sanctity of the office spoiled by the president for -- at the expense of our security. >> and you worked in national security, you know this sort of stuff. and a lot of people have been using the term tip of the iceberg. and based on what you've seen and heard from the whistleblower report and talking with many of your friends and former colleagues, is it the tip of the iceberg? >> sure feels like it. and it is an open question as to how far these impeachment inquiry hearings will go. but clearly when there is this one tiny example caught on the record and this is so explosive and we've seen patterns of deception over the years from the president related to the russia investigation in

particular, it certainly feels like there a lot more underneath the hood. and i think that it is imperative that through these subpoenas, that all the records are gathered from the agencies and that they go further as well to try to figure out what is in that safe, in that vault in the white house of the conversations that the president has had that were locked away in an normal manner and in a way that would prevent him from being embarrassed? i don't think so. i think there has to be more there and so that is what is very concerning as well. >> it will be curious to see if we do get to see what was held away in some of those secret phone calls that the president had with other world leaders. mike pompeo not being deposed but has been subpoenaed for records. he hasn't said much as i said publicly since the controversy. but knowing this administration and what you know of the secretary of state, what can we expect of his next moves? >> well, maybe he hasn't said much because unlike many of the

people who are speaking from the administration, he knows much. and he knows frankly what his team was and was not doing, how they were engaging rudy giuliani in this sort of off the books diplomacy. that is why these five individuals are going to be deposed because they saw up close and personal what it was that rudy giuliani was doing with ukraine and the secretary had to be read in. so he has to be very careful about what he says especially when it comes to congressional testimony. he knows as a former member of congress as well that the power of the subpoena. and so he is clearly ensuring that he gets his language right. >> and in the meantime i really want to get your take on this, on the whole hillary clinton and that explosive article from the "washington post." because 2016 does live on, doesn't it? so of course you heard the "washington post" reports that the state department is intensifying its email probe of hillary clinton's former aides.

what is your take on it? have you received any of these fishing expedition emails? >> well, i have to start with i testified to the benghazi select committee in 2015. and the unending queries from the house republicans then and clearly now with the house republican and secretary of state, it doesn't at all surprise me that this is happening. no, i served during secretary kerry he's tim kerry's time so i'm not on that in that moment. but this does ring alarm bells. this can be very clearly done to send a message to many former state department officials, democratic appointees in many instances that they have to be careful about what they say. and that is potentially an abuse of power as well. so the hillary clinton email scandal keeps going. >> what does it say that some of these folks are getting the emails from the state department saying we want your e mailings

from years ago? >> it is t. says that they are trying to stir up concern of those who served. and it doesn't make sense. there were multiple investigations done.facts of what happened this benghazi, facts of what happened afterwards, have been time tested bipartisan oversight was done. and reports came out and the issue was closed. for it to be conspired up now just like the gas lighting that we're seeing relating to ukraine somehow meddling in our election in 2016, to try to muddy the waters and make americans confused, we need to be very clear, this is gaslighting as well and an attempt to confuse americans who are concerned about the direction of the government and what the state department is doing on their behalf. and it is an attempt to silence potentially those who are critical of this administration and it is very, very concerning. >> we've gone there benghazi to but her emails. and but her emails sticking around. >> there a direct line between

all of these unfortunately. >> interesting. appreciate your time and analysis. at the center by the way of all of this drama surrounding the president is rudy giuliani. the president's personal attorney. once of course known as america's mayor, giuliani has now taken it upon himself to serve as the president's top attack dog during a week long media blitz. and today he was defiant and he continued his pledge of loyalty to trump hinting that he might not cooperate with the house intelligence committee's investigation into his client. >> will you cooperate with the house intelligence committee? >> i wouldn't cooperate with adam schiff. i think adam schiff should be removed. >> joining me now to discuss, anita kumar and barbara mcquaid. welcome to you both on this sunday. anita, i want to start with you.

why do you think rudy giuliani is involving himself in all of this? >> well, we are hearing that the president for whatever reason stilt likes rudy giuliani. he still is his attorney, though i might add that rudy giuliani isn't paid. he is someone that likes to be out there and he is someone that the president likes to see on tv, likes to see as a fighter going out there and talking about what is going on. but what we're hearing more than i ever have in the last two year, three years, is that republicans and allies close to the president have gotten tired of him. they want him to be quiet, they want him to stop giving all these interviews because they feel like it hurts him, it hurts president trump. and so remember last year in 2018, rudy giuliani went on tv and contradicted what president trump had sudden about the hush money payments to women. and we heard a lot of people grousing at that time. it is nothing like it is now. it has reached a whole new level. >> and i want to go back into

the relationship here about giuliani and the president. take a look. he has been telling nbc news for the past two years that he is an unpaid personal attorney for trump. well, that said according to federal elections commission filings, he is not receiving any money from the trump campaign and giuliani is not listed as a registrant under the foreign agents registration act. so two of these filings specify contacts with giuliani during the trump presidency 2017, 2018, concerning activities by the way relating to ukraine. so barbara, as we look at all of that and what question knwe knot of legal implications could giuliani face in the whole ukraine controversy? >> i think first and foremost, there could very well be a charge of conspiracy to defraud the united states by interfering with fair administration of elections. this is the same charge that

robert mueller used against russians in the two indictments that he returned relating to 92016 election. and so if rudy giuliani -- if he even agreed with this scheme that is set forth in the phone call between president trump and the ukranian president, that would be enough. but we know that he did even more than just agree, he travelled in fur rans furtherance of it. so there is potential liability there. he could face charges for bribery and extortion. so i think that getting to the bottom of his activity is going to be important part of what congress unerlt wi uncongreu congress unefforts with the depositions. there and the associated press has a new report on how the attorney general bill barr was surprised and angry to discover that he had been lumped in with giuliani after discovering the

trump ukraine call. and this of course comes as giuliani claims the state department has been assisting him in pressuring ukraine to investigate biden. so what do we know of giuliani's relationship reque with relationship with barr and secretary of state pompeo? >> the president likes giuliani, but not a lot of other people seem to. they do not like that he is talking about different things -- talking about them where they don't get a chance to sort of know what that is. one thing important to say here, rudy giuliani doesn't run his interview schedule or his tv appearances by the white house or the campaign. so he is doing what he wants to do. i don't think that will change unless president trump tells him not to do that. so a lot of these cabinet officials are taken by surprise, they don't know that he is going on tv and they don't know what he is going to say. so you're right, the attorney general and others have been

very upset to see how they have be been lumped in.department of justice put out a statement saying he was unaware of all the interaction that he wasn't involved. obviously we'll hear more from him in the coming days and weeks. but they are getting really tired of rudy giuliani and his statements. >> and he was on one of the president's favorite show last night, and i don't think that he would have gotten permission to be on there without the president of course saying it is okay. barbara, as i mentioned, you are a former u.s. attorney. so how would you say that the democrats should escalate their investigation at least into giuliani this week or what are you expecting? >> i think that they are exercising an appropriate rigor by bringing things quickly. one thing they failed to come with the mueller investigation was move quickly. they delayed and delayed and stalled, some of that because of tactics they were getting from

the white house. but i think that they lost a lot of momentum by moving so slowly. i think calling in these five officials from the state department is incredibly important. you know, this resignation by kurt volker strikes me as very significant. it was just a couple days after giuliani himself disclosed their text messages. so i would look for that in the weeks to come. >> a busy couple weeks ahead. hoping to get it all done before thanksgiving. anita, barbara, thank you guys for being here on this sunday. coming up, fox news personalities clash on air every on the impeachment about investigation. a "new york times" reporter tells us what is happening behind the scenes. nes. this is jamie. you're going to be seeing a lot more of him now. -i'm not calling him "dad." -oh, n-no. -look, [sighs] i get it. some new guy comes in helping your mom bundle and save with progressive, but hey, we're all in this together. right, champ? -i'm getting more nuggets. -how about some carrots? you don't want to ruin your dinner. -you're not my dad!

-that's fair. overstepped. -that's fair. enterprise car sales and you'll take any trade-in?rom joe von vich. joe van vich. eat! joe von vich joe van vich well, it does need to be a vehicle. but - i need this out of my house. (vo) with fair, transparent value for every trade-in... enterprise makes it easy. - [woman] with my shark, i deep clean messes like this, this, and even this. but i don't have to clean this, because the self-cleaning brush roll removes hair while i clean. - [announcer] shark, the vacuum that deep cleans now cleans itself. i am royalty of racing, i am the twisting thundercloud. raise your steins to the king of speed. you wanna see something thatamazing?ing. go to hilton instead of a travel site and you'll experience a whole new range of emotions like... the relaxing feeling of knowing you're getting the best price. these'll work.

the utter delight of free wi-fi... . oh man this is the best part. isn't that you? yeah. and the magic power of unlocking your room with your phone. i can read minds too. really? book at hilton.com. if you find a lower rate, we match it and give you 25% off that stay. expect better. expect hilton.

(classical music playing throughout) quietly running the world. creating jobs and fueling the economy. you're small business owners, and there's nothing small about your business. that's why with dell small business technology advisors.

you'll get tailored product solutions, expert tech advice and one-on-one partnership. to help your small business do big things. call an advisor today at 877-buy-dell. ♪ so president trump today on a tweet storm this morning following a contentious whistleblower segment on his favorite tv network fox news coming as several outlets as well as the "new york times" details the on air rift and the behind the scenes drama that is playing out as fox covers the impeachment inquiry. the writer of that piece joins me right now. so it's kind of interesting. i will say the tea has been especially good the last couple

of weeks. what makes this different? >> it's an exciting time to be a media reporter these days. as you said, there is always some tension between the primetime commentators and the news reporting side. we had this exchange where you had tucker carlson who is a primetime conservative host basically 234suinsulting shepar smith on his air. >> we actually have that clip. take a look at the exchange. >> partisan guest who supports president trump was asked about judge napolitano's legal assessment. when he was asked, he said unchallenged, judge napolitano is a fool, attacking our colleague who is here to offer legal assessments on our air in our work home is repugnant.

>> repugnant. not clear if that was you or me. i'm not very partisan. it doesn't seem honest when a host pretends that the answer is obvious. >> what do you make of that interaction? >> well, i will go out on a limb and say there is some sharp elbows in the cable news world. usually you don't really see it on the air like that. >> it's a picture of an indication of a bigger picture that's going on behind the scenes. >> fox's washington bureau is covering the white house. for months now there has been grumbling that the president will grant the interviews to the sean hannitys of the world but not necessarily spending as much time being willing to talk to

chris wallace. >> i think that this impeachment inquiry has really like thrown into relief what's been going on for a long time. you have news reporters putting out details that are quite unflattering to the president about his interactions with ukraine. and then at night from 8:00 to 11:00 p.m. just a nonstop this is a witch-hunt that the democrats have gone mad and the president has done nothing wrong and a real sort of dissidents between what viewers are seeing in the evenings and daytime. >>. >> the long-time chairman who had an iron fist, he would not allow this to happen. but he has been gone for a few years. it feels like the anchors have more autonomy that they can say what they want. this seemed to show that there

is not that discipline across time slots. >> we'll see how it plays out. >> thank you. coming up in the next hour with impeachment taking much of the national focus, how can the 2020 candidates try to stand out? the impact of the impeachment inquiry on the race. e impact o quiry on the race. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from anyone else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase sensimist. nothing stronger. nothing gentler. nothing lasts longer. flonase sensimist. 24 hour non-drowsy allergy relief you get more than yourfree shipping.ir, you get everything you need for your home at a great price, the way it works best for you, i'll take that. wait honey, no. when you want it. you get a delivery experience you can always count on. you get your perfect find at a price to match, on your own schedule. you get fast and free shipping on the things that make your home feel like you. that's what you get

when you've got wayfair. so shop now! johnsbut we're also a cancer fighting, hiv controlling, joint replacing, and depression relieving company. from the day you're born we never stop taking care of you. i am royalty of racing, i am the twisting thundercloud. raise your steins to the king of speed. red lobster's endless shrimp is back for just $15.99. get all the shrimp you want, any way you want 'em. like new sriracha-honey shrimp, savory grilled teriyaki shrimp, classic shrimp scampi and more! red lobster's endless shrimp is $15.99. hurry in. (door bell rings) it's ohey. this is amazing. with moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, are you okay? even when i was there, i never knew when my symptoms would keep us apart.

so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira can help get, and keep uc under control when other medications haven't worked well enough. and it helps people achieve control that lasts. so you can experience few or no symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. be there for you, and them. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, control is possible.

i'm kendis gibson.

we are tracking several developments into the impeachment inquiry into president trump. the man in charge of that says the whistleblower has agreed to testify, the timing very soon. why is ukraine at the center of this investigation? look at how the tiny country has been repeatedly been tethered to president trump's orbit. and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell will play a critical role if the impeachment reaches the senate. how the reaction differs from the one that surrounded president trump back in the late 1990s. the president is expecting a tough few weeks ahead. first the chairman confirming earlier today that a deal has now been reached for testimony from the whistleblower and a response to the whistleblower complaint, members of the house intelligence and other key committees are working through recess, skejing new depositions

while secretary of state mike pompeo has been subpoenaed for documents. the committee has scheduled a deposition for marie yovanovitch. she was recalled after becoming a political target and left her post the same day ukraine's president met and told a u.s. delegation to increase sanctions on russia. our special envoy to ukraine will be deposed on thursday. kurt volker was reportedly instrumental in organizing rudy giuliani's interactions with top ukrainian politicians including the president. and on friday, secretary of state mike pompeo must turn over requested documents related to trump's interactions with ukraine. will he do it? next week three more state department officials are scheduled to be deposed. for more on all of this, let's go to the white house and kelly o'donnell. >> reporter: what this really

gives us is an outline of some of what the committee thinks are the best avenues to learn more information. they have been battling with the department of state for a while to try to get information. so ultimately use the power of subpoena which is serious to be sure to level that against the secretary of state who is in charge of all documents as the head of that department and that is a quest for documents, not a request for him to appear. and so will the white house comply? we don't have an answer yet. so far the white house position has been not to comply with a lot of the requests made by congress. and will they take a different position with this sort of new set of facts and new controversy? we don't yet know. the committee used the whistleblower's complaint as almost a road map of taking names from that complaint that helped to fill out a picture of the allegations that were outlined by the whistleblower in the document that has now worked

its way to congress and has been made public and all of us are able to see it. so when you pointed out the long time foreign service officer who had been the u.s. abdommbassado ukraine. kurt volker who just resigned from his position, his interactions with rudy giuliani and so forth. so if these officials are not barred from testifying with some assertion of some kind of privilege which i am not a lawyer so i can't anticipate what the white house position will be, but if they provide these depositions, and these would be interviews behind the scenes, not a big hearing like we often see when televised, but questions and answers often with the committee staff, not necessarily the elected members of the house intelligence committee and other committees that are related to this.

it would be important fact finding to try to fill in what some individuals may know because of their interactions in the narrative that was laid out by the whistleblower. can they corroborate and find new insights. a lot of questions still to be answered and the unknowns about will they participate, will they be blocked in any way from participating, that's some of what we will be tracking. >> have we gotten any indication of when we might hear from the state department as to whether they will cooperate with this? >> reporter: just in my experience, they often don't give an answer until right before a scheduled event using all the time available. and often they may be having conversations behind the scenes with lawyers from one agency and a committee talking about this. sometimes we don't find out until a hearing or deadline is

imminent to know what the posture of the white house will be. we don't have specifics on that yet, but it is certainly clear what the committee's road map is for how they want to proceed. that is certainly going to fuel a lot of interest when the rest of congress is around for a recess. members of the committee on intelligence will be working and so will the staff members behind the scenes on some of the issues to try to move this forward since they want the impeachment inquiry to move with some speed although they have said move quickly but not in haste. >> and the next imminent deadline is next wednesday, october 2 for the former ambassador who has been deposed. thanks very much. ukraine as you know is a

little known eastern europen country, but it is now at the center of major headlines across the country and the world. the trump/ukraine connection may not be as new as many people think. one vox article explores how ukraine has been at the center of president trump's scandals since the start from former campaign manager manafort's work. joining me now is alex ward who is a staff writer for vox and also the writer of the article. thank you fl being here. so one of the first points that stood out for me in your article, it states that trump sold out ukraine to try to cozy up to russia. why did he say that? >> well, we do remember from the republican national convention, basically you might recall that there was a controversy over what happened to language about giving military aid to ukraine.

originally, the plan was to say that the trump administration was in support of lethal aid and then got taken out to appropriate assistance. so there was a worry that maybe manafort who was the trump campaign chairman at the time or other people didn't want to commit to offering lethal assistance to ukraine in order to cozy up to russia. >> let's talk about manafort. beyond whatever role he may have played at the convention, of course, he is in lock up here in new york. whatever role he may have played, what sort of connection does he have to ukraine? >> quite a big one. he was for years a lobbiest for the pro russia group political party, was an a adviser to marie yovanovitch. and he helped that party gain power. there was a lot of russia skepticism in ukraine at the

time before the rise to power e. hoomaintained a lot of connections with billionaires like oleg deripaska who had connections with the kremlin. it was only natural that ukraine would come to the headlines again just based on manafort's nutrality. >> it is central to this investigation, one of the hottest searched terms in the last ten days is where is ukraine. fascinating. thank you. in the meantime, the state department is now ramping up its investigation into the e-mail records of dozens of current and former officials who sent messages to former secretary of state hillary clinton. joining me now to break down the latest on this reporting. alex, so this is reporting from the washington post. it came out of the blue over the

weekend. a lot of officials, more than 130 of them said that they have been targeted by the state department over this. >> these are current and former state department officials who sent e-mails to hillary clinton's private account and the state department is now coming to them several years later and saying that there was information in the e-mails that was not classified at the time but that they now are retroactively classifying and they can put the officials in jeopardy because they potentially mishandle classified information. a lot of people who receive the letters from the state department say this is essentially a witch-hunt against them, a political act by trump's state department to try to drum up this issue that of course was such a major political issue in 2016. they think it's potentially another abuse of power by the trump administration using their official authority to try to enact a political end. it seems like a million years

ago that we are talking about hillary clinton's e-mails. if you consume conservative news, this is something you hear about all the time still to this day. so it's very much a live issue for trump's space. they are very much primed to hear messages about it and to think that hillary clinton is still an important political figure who needs to be fought and that they might reward trump for fighting her. this could be potentially another advancement in that strategy. >> it is a strategy that they ahave hung on to for quite some time. appreciate the reporting. coming up, the impeachment inquiry has been at the center of the tension. how will 2020 presidential hopefuls work to get out from under its shadow and try to captivate a national audience? how the investigation is actually impacting 2020. and in the u.k., palace intrigue. the british prime minister pboris johnson forced to

apologize to the queen. a live report ahead. apologize to t qheueen. a live report ahead. shrimp yeah! red lobster's endless shrimp is back for just $15.99. get all the shrimp you want, any way you want 'em. like new sriracha-honey shrimp, savory grilled teriyaki shrimp, classic shrimp scampi and more! red lobster's endless shrimp is $15.99. hurry in. what's going on? it's the 3pm slump. should have had a p3. oh yeah. should have had a p3. need energy? get p3. with a mix of meat, cheese and nuts.

our because of smoking.ital. but we still had to have a cigarette. had to. but then, we were like. what are we doing? the nicodermcq patch helps prevent your urge to smoke all day. nicodermcq. you know why, we know how. sfx: upbeat music a lot of clothes you normally take to the cleaners aren't dirty dirty. they just need a quick refresh. try new febreze clothing quick dry mist. it eliminates odors and refreshes lightly-worn clothing. breathe happy febreze... la la la la la.

>> he's going to be a cop. >> so that clip right there shows part of the reason why the city of houston and the greater harris county texas area are mourning the ten-year veteran

who was shot multiple times. he was ambushed. the 41 year old was one of the first sheriff's deputies to where a traditional turbine and beard on duty. the explosive whistleblower complaints that has prompted an impeachment inquiry. as the daily beast puts it, russia's finger prints are all over trump's ukraine whistleblower scandal. it reads elements outlining various laws pursued by the trump administration with respect to ukraine keep connecting right back to russia, always russia, russia, russia, like marsha, marsha marsha. joining me now is julia davis and msnbc legal analyst danny. welcome to both of you. i want to start with you. that article that you wrote there, give me a sense, explain why is rush thaw main benefactor

of this controversy? >> well, that's something that president trump would do well to explain why his objectives seem to so closely align with russia's objectives, because if you look at what he has been trying to accomplish in ukraine, it would not serve american national interests at all, but it would definitely serve russia well as he was trying to have the biden investigation undermine the findings of the u.s. intelligence agencies and at the same time undermine his top political rival. >> based on 24 reporting, you know the region, why would putin benefit from all that the president did with ukraine there? >> because it would undermine biden, first of all, and secondly it would clear russia in the dnc hack and election interference because that investigation also aimed to

undermine the proven fact that russia interfered in our elections and instead the conspiracy theory about crowd strike would attempt to make it look as though ukraine and not russia interfered in our elections. >> let me turn to you on all of this. legal aspect and ramifications. if it's taking to congress and they find that the white house kind of violated some sort of national security rules -- >> the president has the power unlike almost anybody else in the government to classify and declassify information. so in a sense congress doesn't have a lot of power to control what the president classified and declassifies and arguably maybe even puts within one coded area versus one other. congress's sole remedy for anything bad that the president has always been the impeachment process and virtually nothing

else. they can conduct investigations and ultimately if they can get the necessary votes the house of representatives just needs a majority, they can impeach or essentially indict the president and then take that case over to the senate. >> do we have a sense of how the kremlin is responding to all of this? >> the kremlin is convinced that the republicans will prevent trump's impeachment from going through. and they are convinced that he will still prevail and at the same time along with trump, giuliani and the entire camp, they continue pressuring ukraine telling them that they have to investigate the bidens or else give back the u.s. aid funding that they have received. >> and a lot of people of course parsing the nine-page complaintp and trying to find out and figure out legally did the president violate any election

laws and s if what is said is t? >> the whistleblower complaint arrived after we received a copy of the transcript and maybe a memo. i think the big question that is still unresolved is what the heck was that summary and how is it created? you want to know about the authenticity of the document. this could be mueller.2 because this is an investigation in a sense of an alleged solicitation from another country of something of value that could benefit a campaign. those kinds of allegations if true are very similar to the same kind of allegations that were made about the infamous trump tower meeting in which it was alleged that there was a request to a foreign power for something of benefit to the campaign. there could be potentially violations of campaign financial laws and violations of the

traditional idea of bribery, corruption crimes and extortion. we know the president can't be indicted while he's in office. >> i'm very curious on this. we have this reporting i believe from the "new york times" just a couple days ago saying that the president has had other conversations that have been put in that secret computer server with the saudi royal family and with vladimir putin. based on the whole impeachment inquiry, could the congressional leaders get their hands on that stuff? >> it's difficult to say because the president has the power to classify things including within that power arguably is the power to put it in any box that they want. but we also know from history that congress has very broad subpoena power. we learned that when the nixon administration resisted turning over documents. congress can make the request and battle it out in court. the challenge there is that

court battles take a lot of time. >> and the democrats are hoping to speed this through at least before 2020. thank you for your time. still to come, top senate republican mitch mcconnell has been through proceedings like this before, but his process is different this time around. a look at how omcconnell handled bill clinton's impeachment then. d bill clinton's impeachment then. so when my windshield broke... >> woman: what?! >> vo: ...i searched for someone who really knew my car. i found the experts at safelite autoglass. >> woman: hi! >> vo: with their exclusive technology, they fixed my windshield... then recalibrated the camera attached to my glass so my safety systems still work. who knew that was a thing?! >> woman: safelite has service i can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ panera's new warm grain full of flavor, color,.

full of- woo! full of good. so you can be too. try our new warm grain bowls today. panera. food as it should be. johnsbut we're also a cancer fighting, hiv controlling, joint replacing, and depression relieving company. from the day you're born we never stop taking care of you. but it's not really something yoyou want to buy.. it's not sexy... oh delicious. or delicious... or fun. ♪ but since you need both car and home insurance, why not bundle them with esurance and save up to 10%.

which you can spend on things you really want to buy, like ah well i don't know what you'd wanna buy cause i'm just a guy on your tv. esurance. it's surprisingly painless. (groans) hmph... (food grunting menacingly) when the food you love doesn't love you back, stay smooth and fight heartburn fast with tums smoothies. ♪ tum tum-tum tum tums juul record.ums smoothies. they took $12.8 billion from big tobacco.

juul marketed mango, mint, and menthol flavors, addicting kids to nicotine. five million kids now using e-cigarettes. the fda said juul ignored the law with misleading health claims. now juul is pushing prop c, to overturn san francisco's e-cigarette protections. say no to juul, no to big tobacco, no to prop c. that's why xfinity mobile lets you design your own data. you can share 1, 3, or 10 gigs of data between lines, mix in lines of unlimited, and switch it up at any time. all with millions of secure wifi hotspots and the best lte everywhere else. it's a different kind of wireless network, designed to save you money. switch and save up to $400 a year on your wireless bill. plus, get $250 off the latest phones. that's simple. easy. awesome. call, visit, or go to xfinitymobile.com

it turns out we are not alone in the political crisis. some critical days ahead for boris johnson, prime minister of the united kingdom for 67 days. so, of course, this is a honeymoon period, right? isn't it? so johnson could become the shortest serving british prime minister ever with the looming possibility of being forced out of office as soon as this week. he is facing widespread calls to resign after lying to the queen and unlawfully suspending parliament. what is next? let's turn to matt bradley joining me from our london bureau and following all the

theatrics. we are so happy that y'all are having trouble there. it makes us look better. what's ahead this week? >> that kind of booing and language, you hear that in the halls of parliament as well as on the street. it's not really that unusual. you're going to hear a lot of it coming up this week because on one end there is the political imperative behind the vote that will probably have them try to oust boris johnson. the opposition are trying to do everything they possibly can to avoid what's called a no deal brexit. and if that means removing the prime minister a month before britain is supposed to crash out of the european union with no deal, then members of parliament say that's worth it. there is also a somewhat emotional element. bors johnson tried to knee cap the parliament by suspending them for weeks ahead of the

scheduled leaving from the european union, brexit. that was a very bold and risky move, one that looks like now it will back fire spectacularly. this parliament is now out for blood. they are furious at prime minister boris johnson for their attempt to silence them. so i should tell you what is a no deal brexit? it means instead of leaving the european union with a noeegotiad deal, the u.k. would leave falling back on standard rules. lots of leftist politicians worry that this will leave a giant brexit-shaped hole in the u.k.'s dealings with europe. and that would be disastrous for the economy according to a lot of prominent economists and members of parliament. >> props to you for explaining no deal brexit in about 34 seconds. i think we've gotten a lot of

practice doing that in the last three years. >> thank you. democratic 2020 candidates who are already struggling to stand out in a crowded field are now face agnew obstacle, impeachment. how the investigation into the president is impacting the presidential race coming up. ie presidential race coming up.

(groans) hmph... (food grunting menacingly) when the food you love doesn't love you back, stay smooth and fight heartburn fast with tums smoothies. ♪ tum tum-tum tum tums with tums smoothies. on a scale of one to five? wait... one to five? when it comes to feelings, it's more like five million. there's everything from happy to extremely happy.

there's also angry. i'm really angry, clive! actually, really angry. thank you. and seat 36b angry. you're clive owen. and you're barefoot. yeah... there's also apprehension... ...regret... ...relief. oh and there's empathy... ah, i got this in zurich! actually, what's the opposite of empathy? but what if your business could understand what your customers are feeling... and then do something about it. you can turn disappointment into gratitude. clive, you got to try this. i can't i'm working. turn problems into opportunities. thanks drone. change the future of your business. change the whole experience. alright who wants to go again? i do! i do! ♪ i have a really good feeling about this. ♪ (classical music playing throughout)

house intelligence committee chair revealing today that the whistleblower will speak to

lawmakers and very soon. this morning representative schiff said the whistleblower who filed an anonymous complaint expressing concerns has reached an agreement to testify in front of congress. that complaint, by the way, marked the turning point for democrats who are now charging ahead with their impeachment inkwirpy into the president. the majority of americans apparently now support this decision. we saw this this morning. 55% now supporting or approving an impeachment inquiry. house democrats have scheduled depositions from five senior state department officials. you see them there and the dates. while all this is happening, the trump state department is diving head first into a completely different investigation concerning hillary clinton's e-mails. according to the "washington post" as many as 130 officialvise been contacted by state department investigators, a list that includes senior

officials that reported directly to clinton as well as others whose e-mails were at some point relayed to her inbox. of course, we all remember those illusive e-mails, kind of overshadowed the presidential election. could this impeachment inquiry do the same thing for 2020? a lot of people are wondering this. so vox here posting this saying the very real possibility that america or axious will face the theater of house hearings and then a senate trial in d.c. while campaigns unfold has both parties scrambling to recalibrate strategies. here to talk strategy the president of global situation room incorporated who served as global director and. welcome to both of you.

a lot of people are wondering how this impeachment proceeding process would represent an opportunity to possibly reunite the democrats? >> without question, it's an issue where the democrats are unanimous storm -- their tropical storm to pursue the inquiry. you had elizabeth warren gaining some serious momentum. now that has been stalled somewhat because you have the introduction of this major impeachment issue. so there is an opportunity for some of those other candidates to try to break through in this race. one thing i think will be key is going low and local while the national attention is focussed on impeachment. >> i want to ask your take on the whole polling that we saw out today. where you saw for the first time 55% of americans approve of this

impeachment proceeding. i was looking at the numbers from the previous proceedings. we have never had the numbers that high. could this actually be a turning point for your party? >> well, i think it depends where the story goes from here. you know, there is been tremendous coverage over the last four or five days of this story really going into early last week. and so polling is a lagging indicator. it's not instantaneous. the american public has to basically comprehend and understand and the polling companies have to contact them and get responses. there is always a little bit of a delay. look, i don't think that a majority supporting an inquiry doesn't mean a majority supports impeachment. they are going to want to look at the evidence, look at the facts, look at the history and then make a judgment. and that's what every member of congress and every senator will have to do.

>> i should mention the polling that i'm seeing from august back of 1998. 34% of americans supported impeachment against president clinton. even in december, that number was 34%. we are right now at 55% in this polling. we're very early on into this inquiry and into this investigation. >> well, in speaking of delays and lagging indicators, i think you're seeing in the republican ranks on capitol hill a rather significant lag behind where the american public is, clearly where the facts are on this case. and what's interesting is as this inquiry proceeds, it's going to become more and more tenuous for the republican leaders facing difficult reelections to provide cover for president trump. and let's not forget, at the end of the day, this doesn't necessarily end up with trump being removed from office, but

if republican senators have to vote on protecting him, that could be a costly vote. >> and let me ask you about joe biden. we had the breaking news alert that went out moments ago from sam stein at the daily beast reporting that the biden campaign has now written letters to top executives and hosts at major news networks demanding that they stop booking rudy giuliani. i know you're learning this for the first time. why would the campaign do that? what's at play here? >> i don't know. that's a puzzling campaign tactic at this stage. you know, look, the biden team obviously thinks that rudy is making inaccurate allegations. he was citing sworn depositions this morning on one of the sunday shows. i don't know. rudy giuliani is a key figure here whether you like it or not. i don't think giuliani very much helps trump's case when he geoe

on television. clearly he is a participant here. i think the better question is what is this impeachment inquiry going to effect biden's presidential campaign? they have talked about how they have seen a fundraising bump. i suspect he may get a polling bump as democrats unify. i think there will be lots of questions about how his son was getting a $50,000 a month contract in ukraine without experience in that country. i think there is more to learn. i want to learn on both sides. >> i want you to pick up on all of that m. >> because this issue cuts both ways. certainly there is an opportunity for biden to try to

reassert after having lost ground during the first few months of the campaign. is joe biden really the change that he wants to see in washington? on that score i would say there is a danger for other d.c. tied candidates and perhaps you'll see an opening for some of the nond.c. candidates to re-insert themselves in this election? >> okay. thanks to you. don't mean to cut you off. we have breaking news from the whistleblower's lawyer moments ago. a lawyer for the whistleblower has released this statement about the possibility of his client testifying before congress. we have been talking about it all morning long based on what adam schiff has been saying.

so let's put it up on the screen. he writes that we continue to work with both parties in the house and senate and we understand and agree that protecting the whistleblower's identity continue to occur to coordinate and finalize logistics, but no date and time has been set as yet. once again, the whistleblower's lawyer responding to those reports that we had from adam schiff earlier today when he was saying that the whistleblower has made an agreement with his committee to testify. and it will happen very soon. his lawyer right now is clarifying a little bit slightly saying they continue to work with both parties in the house and the senate, as well. and they understand that all agree to protect the whistleblower's identity. that is of utmost priority for all of them. of course, we will continue to

keep on top of all of that. speaking of impeachment, so we have been here before two decades of bill clinton became the second president in u.s. history to face an impeachment trial in the senate, the majority leader mitch mcconnell can be asked to make president trump the third. senator mcconnell's views on impeachment and the process kind of evolved a little bit since the '90s. >> i was shocked that there were only five democrats who thought that lying under oath before a grand jury was a very important matter. it has been partisan. i think that conveyathize impression to the public that it is just a bunch of politicians fighting against. but we have a constitutional duty. >> we know that house democrats have been indulging their impeachment obsession for nearly three years now, a never ending impeachment parade in search of a rationale. >> how the times have changed. joining me now senior reporter

for news week magazine. how do you compare mcconnell's 1998 to this version for impeachment for him? >> different. different is how i would compare them. just to say the least. of course, we can't escape the reality that party politics plays in any impeachment procedure. >> earlier this week, as you know he said it is laughable in his words to think that this is in anywhere close to an impeachable offense what the president is alleged to have done. what do you think of that response right there? >> he did say that. it is interesting. i want to say that the u.s. has had such limited experience with any impeachment process that it would be unfair to say that we can look to the past for answers to the future. that said, it is interesting to look at what he did say during

his statements at that time. he very much said that the president, bill clinton at the time, had acted lawlessly and he had lied and lying was one of the most fundamental aspects of his complaint. and the reason why he voted guilty. it's interesting to see him now saying that president trump being accused of lying, being accused of asking a foreign government to interfere in an upcoming election effectively is a laughable cause. >> a lot of people trying to figure out what this senate majority leader will do. back in the spring when asked about impeachment assuming, thinking that the republicans thought it would be beneficial to them, he said as soon as it makes its way through the house he will pull it through the senate for a vote. of course, that was hypothetical. now we are possibly at the reality of all of this. do we get a sense that that is

what he will do or kind of hold off and never have an investigation and hearing there in the senate? >> i think right now we are leaning towards him holding to that. he said it quite recently that he would put it to a vote. and i do think that it would be a controversial decision for him to not follow through with that. that said, he could make the argument that we do have an election coming up. let's let the people have the say. >> a lot of people are hoping that the polling numbers will sway him because we saw the new polls today that moments ago where 55% of americans at least at this point are supportive of at least an impeachment inquiry. senator bernie sanders called mcconnell to hold a trial on impeachment. here's what he had to say. >> i hope and i expect that the u.s. house of representatives will begin impeachment proceedings as soon as possible.

and today as a united states senator, i say to mitch mcconnell that as soon as the impeachment proceedings are done, let's have that trial in the united states senate. >> not necessarily sure if that's the sort of speech that will have weight with mitch mcconnell. what will? whose voice will mcconnell listen to? >> that's hard to say. he holds his cards close to the vest. so i think that there are a lot of people who will definitely have an impact in swaying his decision. do i think that he can be changed on his own opinion on whether or not to hold a vote? i think that will fall to himself. he may face pressure from the white house, of course. that could be a factor.

but i think ultimately mitch mcconnell is going to make that decision for himself. so far he has given all signs that there will be a vote. if this is pushed through, he will be the one to stop it. >> trying to give us a little bit of a sense of what mitch mcconnell might do in the coming weeks. our thanks to you. just a reminder, the breaking news that you mentioned there. that note that we got from the lawyer for the whistleblower, the person that filed this complaint in early august releasing a statement about the possibility of his client testifying before congress. and he writes and i'm quoting here, we continue to work with both parties in the house and senate. and we understand that all agree that protecting the whistleblower's identity is paramount discussions to continue to occur to coordinate and finalize logistics.

no date or time has been set. the house intel chair in charge of the investigation earlier today set off a lot of alarm bells when he said they had reached an agreement with the whistleblower and that the whistleblower would be testifying soon. his lawyer mark zed clarifying saying they continue to talk with both sides. we continue to keep on top of all of this. while the political news cycle muchbs as a break neck pace, we are also taking a look at some of the stories like this one. an orangutan wins a landmark legal case. it's part of the good, the bad and the ugly. that's coming up next. d, the bd and the ugly. that's coming up next. ok i'll admit. i didn't keep my place as clean as i would like 'cuz i'm way too busy.

who's got the time to chase around down dirt, dust and hair? so now, i use heavy duty swiffer sweeper and dusters. for hard-to-reach places, duster makes it easy to clean. it captures dust in one swipe. ha! gotcha! and sweeper heavy duty cloths lock away twice as much dirt and dust. it gets stuff deep in the grooves other tools can miss. y'know what? my place... is a lot cleaner now. stop cleaning. start swiffering. doprevagen is the number oneild mempharmacist-recommendeding? memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. johnsbut we're also a cancer fighting, hiv controlling, joint replacing, and depression relieving company. from the day you're born we never stop taking care of you. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, every day can begin with flakes.

it's a reminder of your struggles with psoriasis. but what if your psoriasis symptoms didn't follow you around? that's why there's ilumya. with just 2 doses, a majority of people were clear or almost clear. and over time, even more people were clear or almost clear. all with dosing 4 times a year... after 2 initial doses. plus, ilumya was shown to have similar risks of infections compared to placebo. don't use if you are allergic to ilumya or any of its ingredients. before starting treatment, your doctor should check for tuberculosis and infections. after checking there is no need for routine lab monitoring unless your doctor advises it. ilumya may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or have symptoms, or if you plan to or have recently received a vaccine. this could be your chance to leave your psoriasis symptoms behind. ask your doctor for ilumya today, for a clearer tomorrow.

why accept it frompt an incompyour allergy pills?e else. flonase sensimist. nothing stronger. nothing gentler. nothing lasts longer. flonase sensimist. 24 hour non-drowsy allergy relief (door bell rings) it's ohey. this is amazing. with moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, are you okay? even when i was there, i never knew when my symptoms would keep us apart. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira can help get, and keep uc under control when other medications haven't worked well enough. and it helps people achieve control that lasts. so you can experience few or no symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened;

as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. be there for you, and them. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, control is possible. this is my good. "snl." do we have "snl"? where is it? that's ugly. let's go to good, bad, ugly. it was definitely a week filled with many of them. let's bring in yvonne hilliard

who is a new be here. what is your first good, bad, ugly. i will start with danny here in studio. tell us your good? >> an orangutan who spent 20 years in argentine zoo is being moved to a florida animal sanctuary after a court ruled she was the country's first nonhuman person with the right to liberty. wait until she has to pay taxes and get a mortgage. this being a human is not all it's cracked up to me. am i right? >> no, it isn't. >> apologies for doing the segment with you. your good has to do with a popular beverage.

>> today weerp rr transiti're t hot coffee. why is this particularly significant? doug the pup is celebrating. it was not until the year of 2019 that i started drinking straight coffee. this is the first day in which i can actually celebrate because 2019 finally caught up to me. today we celebrate the good of coffee. >> if it makes you feel any better. did overnight and never drank a cup of coffee. >> danny to your bad. >> a referee was shot in the head by a canon at a college football game. apparently an alumnist brought his own canon to partake in the tradition of firing off a blast. this canon was empty but had wadding in it. that's what hit the ref in the head. he's alive and apparently being

treated. i should say the school is considering a no canon policy on campus. i'm wondering why that wasn't considered before. when it comes to guns, the second amendment, our founders never imagined -- this is the kind of firearm that our founders imagined. i guess that argument versus then and now goes out the window. >> von, your bad. >> my bad is the fact that in the trump era here, there is a conversation happening in a federal court osystem as to whether it should be played during roger stone's court proceed oings. our colleague has been hanging at the courthouse was there on wednesday in which the federal judge was having -- taking up a motion from roger stone's defense lawyer saying the prosecution should not be able to play a four-minute clip of

the god father 2. roger stone sent a text message making reference that perhaps you should pull -- he did not turn up the goods when it came to the court hearing. >> what's your ugly? >> my ugly is the fact that the coach of the chicago cubs has been fired after five seasons winning the chicago cubs a championship in breaking the long billy goat curse. today the cubs participated ways with manager joe madden who is a good man. the cubs went 90 plus games. it's a cry. it's a shame and it's ugly. >> but congratulations to the cubs having won one some time ago. thank you for taking part in it. danny, close us out.

>> he's reportedly rejecting the witness protection program after testifying against old gang members in a federal trial. in that sense, i kind of sympathize with him. where would the feds relocate him? he's got what you call a distinctive look. are they going to put him in some random town in the midwest and call him todd? it's not going to work. in a sense, i understand his decision. it's going to be very hard to relocate someone like takashi 69. >> that's why he can't go into witness protection. thank you. appreciate you being part of the first gbu. enjoy the rest. coming up next hour, all the president's men, a break down of the major players implicated in the impeachment inquiry. player the impeachment inquiry. at fidelity, we believe your money

should always be working harder. that's why your cash automatically goes into a money market fund when you open a new account. and fidelity's rate is higher than e*trade's, td ameritrade's, even 9 times more than schwab's. plus only fidelity has zero account fees and zero minimums for retail brokerage and retirement accounts. just another reminder of the value you'll only find at fidelity. open an account today. red lobster's endless shrimp is back for just $15.99. get all the shrimp you want, any way you want 'em. like new sriracha-honey shrimp, savory grilled teriyaki shrimp, classic shrimp scampi and more! red lobster's endless shrimp is $15.99. hurry in. yeah...yeah, this is nice.

hmm. how did you make the dip so rich and creamy? oh it's a philadelphia-- family recipe. can i see it? no. philadelphia dips. so good, you'll take all the credit. ♪upbeat musieverything was so fresh in the beginning. [sniff] ♪ dramatic music♪ but that plug quickly faded. ♪upbeat music luckily there's febreze plug. it cleans away odors and freshens for 1200 hours. [deep inhale] breathe happy with febreze plug.

johnsbut we're also a cancer fighting, hiv controlling, joint replacing, and depression relieving company. from the day you're born we never stop taking care of you.

that will do it for a busy afternoon and busy weekend for that matter on msnbc live. i'll be back next saturday at 2:00 p.m. eastern. news continues now with richard lui. new today for you on the impeachment inquiry into president trump, according to the representative who will lead the house investigation, the whistleblower will testify in